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ECAD–MCAD Collaboration – Why now?

Posted by john_isaac on Aug 21, 2008 1:28:24 PM

All of a sudden there is a flurry of announcements by EDA vendors claiming to supply ECAD–MCAD collaboration tools. But the electrical and mechanical domains have had interface capabilities for years, so why all the attention now? I believe that several things have happened over the past year to bring this to light.

 

First and foremost is the realization by EDA vendors that the business pressures on our customers are only increasing. They have stated that they must cut time-to-market (product design time) by up to 50%. They need to cut development cost by 30%. And they need to continue to deliver the most competitive products that use the most advanced technology with time for their designers to innovate. EDA vendors are realizing that they can NOT meet these demands solely with incremental improvements to their PCB systems design solutions. They must create efficient collaboration capabilities between ECAD and the other multiple disciplines in the product development process. MCAD is one of those.

 

Another reason is that now a standard exists that can support true ECAD-MCAD collaboration. In 2005, Mentor started an effort with some MCAD vendors, a few select customers, and the ProSTEP organization to develop a standard for collaborative exchange of incremental changes to the PCB or enclosure. The EDMD schema became an approved standard this spring. This does not replace the IDF standard for en masse data base transfer but compliments it by supporting incremental change capability. Mentor and PTC have used EDMD to implement the first collaboration capability enabling proposal, rejection, counter proposal, and acceptance scenarios between ECAD and MCAD designers. Hopefully all ECAD and MCAD vendors will implement collaboration capabilities using this standard. This does not replace the need for en masse data transfer, or 3D viewing (which almost all EDA vendors have), or communication between the disciplines, but embellishes it with true digital design-in-progress collaboration.

 

So, need drives innovation. Innovation leads to quantum improvements to the electronic product design tools and processes. And these improvements lead to meeting the business needs of the electronics industry. One old blogger’s opinion. How about yours?



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Aug 21, 2008 3:57 PM larry_kenyon larry_kenyon    says:

John,

I couldn’t agree more about the value to an organization of timely, iterative, bi-directional collaboration between the ECAD and MCAD communities.  The Web-waves are overflowing with articles about business issues regarding product cost, time to market, and productivity, and how those can be positively influenced by an increased communications during the design process.  I’ve been involved in the electronics industry for over 25 years, most of the early years spent in PCB assembly/test and final product assembly.  I have seen first hand the huge costs incurred at the end of a design cycle by the lack of continuous communication between organizations.  Costs such as rework and material scrap are very real, and slipped product introduction schedules can be very expensive in the increasingly competitive industry.  The “throw it over the wall” syndrome has existed partly for political reasons, but also because until now there wasn’t really a viable solution to the problem.

This is not to say that there is no value to 3D Visualization, often touted today by ECAD and MCAD vendors as “collaboration”.  There is considerable value in the ECAD designer being able to better visualize the mechanical constraints he is working with early in the project, but that tends to be a one-way street, with little or no back-flow of information or data.

As the lines between the electrical and mechanical design worlds blur, the ultimate solution, as you describe, is the bi-directional sharing of mutual design data when it is needed, long before conflicts become ugly surprises at the end of the cycle.

 

-Larry Kenyon

Mentor Graphics

Aug 23, 2008 2:17 AM joe_krolla joe_krolla    says:

Over the last months I have talked to many customers about the issue of aligning mechanical design and electronic design. One wonders why it took the PCB and the MCAD companies so long to address a long standing problem. Its also interesting to see that the problem has not been thematised by the end user community for years. Apparently the design communities were busy with their own problems for themselves, both ECAD and MCAD teams.

In fact it is amazing to see the nodding when discussing the challenges with customers. One customer recently named the current methodology "design by pray"... try to synch between ECAD and MCAD through IDF, IGES, DXF or such.. and then pray that everything goes right in the first prototype pass. As you would expect: usually it does not.

This has nothing to do with predictable time to market any more.

Every customer who learns about the true collaboration method embraces is and wonders how they could live without true collaboration in the past.

Lets see how customers will quantify the benefits at the end. But it is to be expected that they will be massive, especially in a world of formfactor, function and design dictating the specification for the board design with all electrical, thermal, and mechanical constraints.