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ERROR: Unable to locate CES pin

Question asked by mathieu.lafrance on May 3, 2013
Latest reply on Jul 1, 2019 by ilto

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Hi,

I'm getting a strange error when packaging for which I can't find any information. I'm getting a bunch of:

ERROR: Unable to locate CES pin "R???-?" while attempting to connect pin to net "?????" in the CES configuration (I've replaced the actual ref des and net name with "??")

I am unsure of how this relates to CES. Are we talking about the Constraints ? I think CES might need to be updated, but I can't see such options.

If it's of any interest:

This error started to appear after I was completed with fixing all the other errors that were present in the schematic. Actually, i'm fixing errors in this design because we got it from another team. We didn't get a full working library (all symbols were missing, but cells and parts were present), so I've been working on replacing parts with newer parts that had the original symbols so that we could package correctly.

Included in this message is the full output of packager.

Any ideas where I can start ?

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mathieu.lafrance May 3, 2013 12:55 PM

I've tried running CES Diagnotics, a few errors came up, most of them are now fixed, but one type of error persists:

Test: Pin reference to net valid

Error 3411: Pin seems to be used more than once in components. Not Fixed.

There are 283 occurences of this error in CES Diadgnostic, exactly the same number of errors that i'm getting from packaging.

Please advise.

Thanks

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mathieu.lafrance @ mathieu.lafrance on May 8, 2013 10:43 AM

Workaround as provided by mentor:

I tried the following to work around the issue and it seems to work. So try that and let me know if you still see any issue. In the meantime, I am turning in a Defect on this issue to Engineering that CES Diagnostic should be able to fix this issue when ran.

I invoked CES from DxDesigner and ran CES Diagnostic and fixed any errors that could be fixed. Then I closed CES and ran Tools > DxDesigner Diagnostic.

Then I ran packager and the very first part in question was about R150.

Using Edit > Find dialog, I found R150 in the schematic. Then enabling everything in the Filter, I area selected the whole schematic and hit delete on the keyboard. You will get a message about composite symbols, click Yes anyway. Now do Edit > Undo to get everything back. Now close all schematic and run Packager again. You will notice that at least the first few errors are taken care off and the next one seeing is for R426. Do the same with this part, locate this part and delete everything from the schematic sheet it is on and then Undo. You will have to try this a couple of times and then it should resolve the issue and hopefully Packager will run clean after doing a few more of these sheets.

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eric.o.tavares @ mathieu.lafrance on Jan 18, 2014 4:17 AM

Hi Dear Mathieu,

It was very useful for me! Thanks!

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aclark @ mathieu.lafrance on Feb 18, 2014 9:42 AM

I did this, and it did solve my "Unable to locate CES pin" error.

However, this MUST be used with caution. As I found out, UNDO does not undo everything. It only undoes the properties that are Block values or the current Instance. I had to manually re-enter all the values for the other 28 instances .

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agxinmj Oct 21, 2014 11:30 PM

hai

the same error i got when i replace the symbol especially ceramic capacitor in a packaged schematic with polarized capacitor and if we choose preserve reference information after replacing when i package the schematic this error is appearing

so while replacing symbols we should be really careful and we should not apply cntl+z after replacing the symbol with equivalent symbols

as far as possible try to avoid Preserve reference designators

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ilto Jul 1, 2019 3:17 AM

Hi,

I have the same/similar problem while packaging:

ERROR: Unable to locate pin number "1;" on Ces Component "C3" in the Common Database
ERROR: Unable to locate pin number "2;" on Ces Component "C3" in the Common Database

...

This project ist based on an existing design which I have strongly edited to a new one.

If I try to search for "C3" there is no component with this name.

There isnt a CES Diagnostic like mathieu.lafrance said. I'm using Xpedition Designer 2.4.

Can anybody help me? Thanks

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robert_davies @ ilto on Jul 1, 2019 3:28 AM

To get to CES Diagnostics run Tools - Constraint Manager from Designer, then Tools - CES Diagnostics from Constraint Manager (CES was renamed a couple of releases ago).

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ilto @ robert_davies on Jul 1, 2019 6:30 AM

Hi,

thanks I found the CES diagnostic and did it like you describe. But it doesnt help.

do you know what this error means in detail?

Note:

I solved it. If you name a Capacitor like C?ABC than it will interpreted as C1/2/3.. what ever. And if this Capacitor has a Problem with pins/slots than the Error comes.

You have to choose select slots proper. Thanks

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mathieu.lafrance May 3, 2013 12:55 PM
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I've tried running CES Diagnotics, a few errors came up, most of them are now fixed, but one type of error persists:

Test: Pin reference to net valid

Error 3411: Pin seems to be used more than once in components. Not Fixed.

There are 283 occurences of this error in CES Diadgnostic, exactly the same number of errors that i'm getting from packaging.

Please advise.

Thanks
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mathieu.lafrance @ mathieu.lafrance on May 8, 2013 10:43 AM
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Workaround as provided by mentor:

I tried the following to work around the issue and it seems to work. So try that and let me know if you still see any issue. In the meantime, I am turning in a Defect on this issue to Engineering that CES Diagnostic should be able to fix this issue when ran.

I invoked CES from DxDesigner and ran CES Diagnostic and fixed any errors that could be fixed. Then I closed CES and ran Tools > DxDesigner Diagnostic.

Then I ran packager and the very first part in question was about R150.

Using Edit > Find dialog, I found R150 in the schematic. Then enabling everything in the Filter, I area selected the whole schematic and hit delete on the keyboard. You will get a message about composite symbols, click Yes anyway. Now do Edit > Undo to get everything back. Now close all schematic and run Packager again. You will notice that at least the first few errors are taken care off and the next one seeing is for R426. Do the same with this part, locate this part and delete everything from the schematic sheet it is on and then Undo. You will have to try this a couple of times and then it should resolve the issue and hopefully Packager will run clean after doing a few more of these sheets.
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eric.o.tavares @ mathieu.lafrance on Jan 18, 2014 4:17 AM
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Hi Dear Mathieu,

It was very useful for me! Thanks!
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aclark @ mathieu.lafrance on Feb 18, 2014 9:42 AM
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I did this, and it did solve my "Unable to locate CES pin" error.

However, this MUST be used with caution. As I found out, UNDO does not undo everything. It only undoes the properties that are Block values or the current Instance. I had to manually re-enter all the values for the other 28 instances .
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agxinmj Oct 21, 2014 11:30 PM
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hai
the same error i got when i replace the symbol especially ceramic capacitor in a packaged schematic with polarized capacitor and if we choose preserve reference information after replacing when i package the schematic this error is appearing
so while replacing symbols we should be really careful and we should not apply cntl+z after replacing the symbol with equivalent symbols
as far as possible try to avoid Preserve reference designators
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ilto Jul 1, 2019 3:17 AM
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Hi,

I have the same/similar problem while packaging:

ERROR: Unable to locate pin number "1;" on Ces Component "C3" in the Common Database
ERROR: Unable to locate pin number "2;" on Ces Component "C3" in the Common Database
...

This project ist based on an existing design which I have strongly edited to a new one.

If I try to search for "C3" there is no component with this name.

There isnt a CES Diagnostic like mathieu.lafrance said. I'm using Xpedition Designer 2.4.

Can anybody help me? Thanks
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robert_davies @ ilto on Jul 1, 2019 3:28 AM
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To get to CES Diagnostics run Tools - Constraint Manager from Designer, then Tools - CES Diagnostics from Constraint Manager (CES was renamed a couple of releases ago).
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ilto @ robert_davies on Jul 1, 2019 6:30 AM
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Hi,
thanks I found the CES diagnostic and did it like you describe. But it doesnt help.

do you know what this error means in detail?

Note:
I solved it. If you name a Capacitor like C?ABC than it will interpreted as C1/2/3.. what ever. And if this Capacitor has a Problem with pins/slots than the Error comes.
You have to choose select slots proper. Thanks
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