Excuse me, what is the Non Electrical Parts in PADS? How to creat? What are the uses?Thanks!
So Mentor, any insight on this, or do I need a Service Request?
This looks like it would be very handy for components that need mounting hardware, such as screws or a spacer. Can I get it to match the reference designator? So if I had a connector that needed to screw onto the board, how would I use non-electrical parts to get a BOM like this:
Q RefDes Part
1 J1 Connector
2 J1M Mounting screws
Good question. I've been a PADS user for many, many years and I've never used them.
But now I'm curous...
PADS Logic says "non electrical parts - Parts with no pins. For example, a mounting screw shown in the schematic for inventory tracking in the bill of materials."
PADS Layout says "ECO Registered Parts - Allows a part to be passed between the design and schematic file for forward and backward annotation. By default, all existing part types in your design are ECO registered.
Tip: Typically you do not select this check box for non-electrical parts. For example, if you create and add a mounting hole to your design in the layout software, you would not need the part (mounting hole) to pass back to your schematic when you perform a backward annotation of the design." - Side note, unless you want the mounting hole connected to a net, such as Chassis GND
So if something has the 'ECO Registered part' unchecked in the Part Information dialog box (in the Part Editor) does that make it non-electrical?
In the PADS Logic, the non electrical parts are different from the ECO Registered Parts.
But I don't know the uses of the non electrical parts. I can set up these to the ECO Registered Parts for the uses of the annotation.
In addition , I konw how to creat the ECO Registered Parts, but don't know how to creat the non electrical parts.
Can the non electrical parts is useless? I don't think so.
Thanks for your answer. I understand what are the non electrical parts on account of your answer. And I do something later, definite answer is the parts created by the 2D lines only[CAE and DECAL].
Thank you very much!
Hello All ,
I still have the same question whether how to create a Non electrical part ?
Definetly I know what non electrical part is but creating that part is a confusion ?
We can create Non - ECO registered part and set rules as required in its options .
But there is no such option for creating Non electrical part in Part Information dialog box .
We definetly have option for Non electrical part in tools ---> option ..
So please assist whether how to create a non electrical part ?
Best Regards ,
Hardware CAD Engineer
Vadodara , Gujarat
if you need to create non electrical,create as Decal (Footprint),after creating you have add by ECO off method
You mean to say that just untick ' ECO registered ' check box while linking the PCB Decal in part information dialog box in Pads Logic .
Am I right ?
Best Regards ,Parth SutariyaHardware CAD EngineerMATRIX COMSECVadodara , GujaratINDIA
No need to assign the parts in Pads Logic, you can add the decal in layout using ECO
Thanks for the suggestion .
Actually we need the part to be included in BOM information .Its PCB Decal is not required .
It is just to be included in PADS Logic so as to get its information in BOM .
So I just wanted to clarify confusion between Non ECO registered part & Non Electrical part .
I guess the method you mentioned in your reply was for Non Electrical part. Am I right ?
But for the purpose which I need , which one you suggest to go for ?
In the part editor when you have the 'edit electrical' dialog up the help button gives a pretty good summary:
ECO Registered Part
Allows a part to be passed between the design and schematic file for forward and backward annotation. By default, all existing part types in your design are ECO registered.
Tip: Typically you do not select this check box for non-electrical parts. For example, if you create and add a mounting hole to your design in the layout software, you would not need the part (mounting hole) to pass back to your schematic when you perform a backward annotation of the design.
So if you want a part to sync between Logic and Layout it must be ECO registered (i.e. something on the BOM and on the PCB layout).
Non-electrical parts are typically only on the layout.
Thanks for the info.
That cleared some confusion between Non Electrical & Non ECO registered parts .
So its now clear that I should choose for Non ECO Registered part as I want just attribute information in BOM with no PCB Decal assigned to that part .
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