The answer is both. Both Flotherm.pcb and HyperLynx Thermal have excellent technology which we would like to put into our customers' hands. We are actively working on combining the tools, and allowing go-forward paths for both Flotherm.pcb and HyperLynx Thermal users.
Often times people feel that a tool is a "toy" if it is easy to use, but it is easy to forget that HyperLynx Thermal is actually quite flexible in its modeling capabilities and can model some very complicated scenarios, and get you results super fast. You can examine cooling solutions interactively as opposed to making a change and then waiting for results. And you can pick up the tool and start working immediately - no elaborate training class required. It is also important to note that since Mentor acquired BETASoft we have improved the program significantly, including items like better integration and inclusion of board copper data, available in HyperLynx Thermal 9.0.
Easy to use isn't equal to a toy. I don't think that Hyperlynx thermal(Betasoft) support a felexible model.
Total two years passed. I see nothing get changed in Hyperlynx thermal.
can you kindly provide me the difference between these two tools HL thermal and FLOTHERM pcb?
i want to know what HLT can dow what can not which will be done by Flotherm pcb and more...
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Thank you for your question.
Although you didn’t specifically ask about it, for thermal analysis of electronics, Mentor’s primary thermal analysis tool is FloTHERM. FloTHERM is used by mechanical and thermal engineers to simulate and design thermal solutions over a broad range of electronics applications. I mention it here, as it’s referred to below.
Hyperlynx Thermal and FloTHERM PCB both differ from FloTHERM in that they perform board-level thermal analysis only. The key differences between the tools are described in the following sections.
· Targeted for use by electrical engineers and is more tightly integrated with the PCB design flow
· Simplified modeling for components and board environment
o Extremely fast solutions
o Optimized for analyzing board-level design tradeoffs
· Integration with the Hyperlynx PI (*note that an interface exists now between HyperLynx PI and FloTHERM as well*)
· Targeted for use by mechanical/thermal engineers in conjunction with electrical engineers. Basic integration with PCB design flow.
· Full Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) solver
o Longer solution times in comparison to HLT
o More generalized ability to support complex thermal environments
· Support for advanced thermal component modeling options, enabling more accurate junction temperature predictions
· Model and Environment sharing with FloTHERM
The long-term strategy is to evolve these tools into a single product offering. The first step to achieving this was to implement a shared licensing feature (i.e., a FloTHERM PCB license will allow you to run HyperLynx Thermal, and vice-versa).
Product Marketing Manager for HyperLynx Thermal
I appreciate Mentor's cross-license policy and I also partially agree your opinion about Hyperlynx thermal(Betasoft). As all known, there are many fishes in SI/PI/3D EM pool, and I think our industry need a comprensive board-leve analyis tool to do SI/PI/Thermal/3D EM/EMC. The tool should be easy of use, excellent performance,great accuracy and cool GUI, good intergration with Layout tool, and an unified database. I see Hyperlynx now is evoluting and I hope it will be a holistic solution, a winning fish. This will benifits all of Mentor user. I reconginze that Mentor have wide technologies to make it happened,but I don't understand why Mentor slow it.
For thermal, I strongly suggestion Hyperlynx team to adopt Flotherm's CFD engine into Hyperlynx. I mean Hyperlynx thermal should have two engines,one is based on betasoft and used as basical estimate, another is based on flotherm and used as verification engine. Also I think Mentor should modify betasoft engine to make it to support 2-resistors thermal model,DELPHI Model etc.